Comments on: Tim Wise – A Caucasian Anti-Racist Activist and Speaker http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker You'll only need the edge! ! ! Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:15:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IBARW 3 - Links to my various related entries from last year http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/comment-page-1/#comment-113 IBARW 3 - Links to my various related entries from last year Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:20:57 +0000 http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/#comment-113 [...] 22, 2008 - Tim Wise - A Caucasian Anti-Racist Activist and Speaker Lots of links to and about this guy, and in the comments, some discussion of the dynamic of having [...] [...] 22, 2008 – Tim Wise – A Caucasian Anti-Racist Activist and Speaker Lots of links to and about this guy, and in the comments, some discussion of the dynamic of having [...]

]]> By: katie http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/comment-page-1/#comment-57 katie Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:34:47 +0000 http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/#comment-57 *nods* The demanded explanation dynamic seems to be the most common explosion theme, followed closely by the experience denial "Well I've never experienced that (so you must be crazy/lying/etc)". And there's usually a ton of transference going on with everyone involved during those conversations. Does make me wonder what woke him up to it. *nods* The demanded explanation dynamic seems to be the most common explosion theme, followed closely by the experience denial “Well I’ve never experienced that (so you must be crazy/lying/etc)”. And there’s usually a ton of transference going on with everyone involved during those conversations.

Does make me wonder what woke him up to it.

]]> By: Malcolm http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Malcolm Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:14:00 +0000 http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/#comment-56 Well it's such a challenging and difficult conversation for many people (non-pink and pink). At issue is hundreds of years, thousands of years of bad feelings. One of the core tenets of anti-*-ist activism is that those who wish to repsectfully learn must not in any context demand explanations of any kind from the folks who are at the exploited end of the dynamic. The reason why is that those folks can get rapidly burned out, frustrated and pissed off. And it's true even if you go into a situation volunteering to be the educator. Eventually some complete dickhead manages to bait you successfully and you are no longer an educator but a screamer. That burnout/flashfire is why I generally try to stay out of the *-ism 101 conversations theres days. I'm tapped out. But another part of me hates that it takes a pink guy (haver of all the privilege in the world) to defang it enough to have the conversation and have it functionally. And at the same time another part of me wants to say, "Thank god. Now you do all the talking." Well it’s such a challenging and difficult conversation for many people (non-pink and pink). At issue is hundreds of years, thousands of years of bad feelings.

One of the core tenets of anti-*-ist activism is that those who wish to repsectfully learn must not in any context demand explanations of any kind from the folks who are at the exploited end of the dynamic. The reason why is that those folks can get rapidly burned out, frustrated and pissed off. And it’s true even if you go into a situation volunteering to be the educator. Eventually some complete dickhead manages to bait you successfully and you are no longer an educator but a screamer.

That burnout/flashfire is why I generally try to stay out of the *-ism 101 conversations theres days. I’m tapped out.

But another part of me hates that it takes a pink guy (haver of all the privilege in the world) to defang it enough to have the conversation and have it functionally. And at the same time another part of me wants to say, “Thank god. Now you do all the talking.”

]]> By: katie http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/comment-page-1/#comment-55 katie Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:18 +0000 http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/04/22/tim-wise-a-caucasian-anti-racist-activist-and-speaker/#comment-55 I've been reading his archive articles. Many thanks for the link! One of the reasons I get bored with most privlege conversations is that they quickly stop being conversations - the people involved are just screaming "I'm right and you're wrong!" at each other. The articles I've been reading stir up thought instead of shutting it down. I’ve been reading his archive articles. Many thanks for the link!

One of the reasons I get bored with most privlege conversations is that they quickly stop being conversations – the people involved are just screaming “I’m right and you’re wrong!” at each other. The articles I’ve been reading stir up thought instead of shutting it down.

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